[GWE] What is the Optimum Final Height for Cannabis Plants?

Published: Sun, 05/21/17

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Issue #266 - Sunday, May 21, 2017 

Dear Fellow Grower, 

In today's issue... 

  • Learn how to grow plants that are the perfect height! Getting the right height will maximize your yields while possibly reducing electricity use!

  • Now that the outdoor growing season is underway in the northern hemisphere, I wanted to share some of the best and safest pesticides to fight against common cannabis pests! All the ones listed are safe to be used right up until harvest!

  • Check out this week's trophy pics which feature a hydroponic grow that pulled over a pound of buds!

Nebula Haze & Sirius Fourside (founders of GrowWeedEasy.com)​

"Instead of worrying about what you cannot control, shift your energy to what you can create."

~Roy T. Bennet

What is the Best Plant Height?
by Nebula Haze


Dear Nebula,

Is there an Optimal Final Height for the plant?

Most everything I read says to continue the Vegetative Stage until the plant is about 1/2 its desired height, then flip to Flowering Stage, because plants about double in height on average.


Assuming you are keeping the canopy as flat as possible. Should you try for as tall as your tent/light will allow without burn? Or is there an optimal height found to give best yield/quality? Does the plant waste energy moving the nutrients up a taller plant?


I see amazing pictures of bountiful plants that appear to be under 36", with lots of fat dense colas.

~Reader
 
When it comes to training cannabis plants indoors, in the best-case scenario, you want your plants to be big enough to support as much bud as your grow light can produce. Yet there's no point in having a whole bunch of bud sites located below where the light can reach, because buds that don't get any light usually do not fatten up. So, when growing indoors the optimal length of buds is heavily dependent on your grow light.

Optimal Plant Height Depends on Your Grow Light. Bigger Lights Can Support Bigger Plants and Longer Buds!


If you examine the structure of an indoor cannabis plant at harvest, you'll often see that there's long fat "colas" at the top, and underneath there are smaller buds. The further down you get on the plant, the smaller the buds are. After a certain point, the buds are so small that they don't really add any significant weight.


Big buds form on top, but as you get further from the light, the buds get smaller until there are almost none. If these plants had been allowed to get any taller (with everything else the same), they likely wouldn't have produced much more bud than they did here. Any extra time spent in the vegetative stage likely would have been a waste of time. 
This was the longest solid cola I've gotten from a 250W HPS grow light; it was about 12" long. Below that point the plant still made buds, but they were individual buds as opposed to a long cola. The final height of a plant should generally be about twice the height of your longest main cola. That tends to be the "sweet spot" for a lot of strains. 
If nothing else was changed, the yields would not be that different whether the plant is 2 feet tall or 4 feet tall under a 250W HPS, because the light just doesn't go down that far into the plant. However, a bigger grow light could have supported a taller plant.

A too-tall plant isn't a big deal if it actually fits in your grow space, but the extra lower growth that doesn't produce bud is essentially a waste of electricity, time and money, since you potentially could have shaved weeks off your vegetative stage without sacrificing yields!


Under a 600W HPS, I haven't ever seen a main cola that's much longer than 2 feet even if light is getting down almost to the floor. So, I'm not sure how much benefit you would get by switching to 12/12 after the plant is 2 feet tall. These plants were switched at around 20" tall under a 600W. 
You can support even taller plants and longer colas under bigger grow lights!


Examples with Common Grow Lights

Although it's true you want to flip to the flowering stage when your plant is about half the final desired height (since it will about double in size after the flip to the flowering stage), here are some general guidelines that have worked well for me:

Note: Always try to do an "autopsy" after you grow and take a hard look at your pictures to see if there's anything you could have done to get even better results! I learn something new every grow!
  • CFLs, T5s and Other Fluorescents - Switch when plant is 6-12" tall (unless you also have light from the sides, then it can be a bit taller as long as all the bud sites are getting light)
  • 250W HPS - Switch when plant is ~12" tall
  • 400W HPS - Switch when plant is ~17" tall
  • 600W HPS - Switch when plant is ~21" tall.
  • LEC or CMH Grow Lights - Follow general guidelines for HPS lights based on your wattage (a 315W is good for ~15" tall, and a 630W is good for ~22" tall)
  • LED Grow Lights - Unfortunately this depends a lot on the model. It's partially a matter of trial and error because there's no "standard" with LEDs like there are with other grow lights. A good rule of thumb is to take note of the length of your main colas after the switch to 12/12 (from a previous grow), then try to initiate flowering with your new plants when they're about that height. So, if your main colas end up around 12" long, initiate flowering when the plant is 12" tall, etc. But if you aren't sure yet, I recommend just sticking to the "half the final desired height" rule with LEDs, because that ensures that at least the plant will fit in your grow space and you'll be able to learn what to expect from your LED model.

Note: Defoliation (removing leaves to expose bud sites) lets you produce bigger buds further down into the plant! That means your light could potentially support slightly taller plants with longer buds if you use defoliation. This is why it's important to always test your plants with your light and your setup, as everyone's results will be a little different based on their strain, environment and personal growing techniques.

"Tall" vs "Short" Strains

Although plants typically double in height after the switch, some particularly tall and short strains can stretch more or less than average! Always pay attention to what the breeder tells you about your strain and plan accordingly!
  • If you have a "tall" strain, switch to the flowering stage earlier than recommended (1/3 the final desired height)

  • With a "short" strain you should wait until the plant is taller before the switch (3/4 the final desired height), to ensure the plant is tall enough after it's done stretching.
In the picture below, the grower could probably have switched to 12/12 earlier without hurting yields because the buds at the bottom are not adding much weight. Sativa plants like this can triple in height after the switch to the flowering stage, so it's common to end up with a Sativa plant that's far taller than expected!
 
 
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Trophy Pictures of the Week!

It was a bubbleponic grow following the GWE tutorial and feeding schedule pretty much completely. Maybe a few touches of my own added in.

​​​​​​​The harvest ended up being just a little over a pound total off of both plants.

The Wonder Woman is on the right and she has captured a White Rhino on the left with her Lasso of Truth (my old belt) as you can see in the pics.
Both were feminized photoperiod seeds from Nirvana.
What the roots looked like at harvest
The Wonder Woman started showing amber trichs right at 8 weeks from the switch to 12/12 so I started flushing in plain water. I started trimming a couple of days later.  I got 258 grams off of the Wonder Woman.
The White Rhino wasn't ready until about 9 1/2 weeks from the flip to 12/12 it ended up flushing in plain water for 18 days before I cut the last cola. I got 199 grams off of the White Rhino.
I was afraid that might have been too long but it came out EXCELLENT!

Congratulations on a fabulous harvest!​​​​​​​
 

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